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Scale 1785: "Tharyllic"

Scale 1785: Tharyllic, Ian Ring Music Theory

Bracelet Diagram

The bracelet shows tones that are in this scale, starting from the top (12 o'clock), going clockwise in ascending semitones. The "i" icon marks imperfect tones that do not have a tone a fifth above. Dotted lines indicate axes of symmetry.

Tonnetz Diagram

Tonnetz diagrams are popular in Neo-Riemannian theory. Notes are arranged in a lattice where perfect 5th intervals are from left to right, major third are northeast, and major 6th intervals are northwest. Other directions are inverse of their opposite. This diagram helps to visualize common triads (they're triangles) and circle-of-fifth relationships (horizontal lines).

Common Names

Zeitler
Tharyllic
Dozenal
Ladian

Analysis

Cardinality

Cardinality is the count of how many pitches are in the scale.

8 (octatonic)

Pitch Class Set

The tones in this scale, expressed as numbers from 0 to 11

{0,3,4,5,6,7,9,10}

Forte Number

A code assigned by theorist Allen Forte, for this pitch class set and all of its transpositional (rotation) and inversional (reflection) transformations.

8-13

Rotational Symmetry

Some scales have rotational symmetry, sometimes known as "limited transposition". If there are any rotational symmetries, these are the intervals of periodicity.

none

Reflection Axes

If a scale has an axis of reflective symmetry, then it can transform into itself by inversion. It also implies that the scale has Ridge Tones. Notably an axis of reflection can occur directly on a tone or half way between two tones.

none

Palindromicity

A palindromic scale has the same pattern of intervals both ascending and descending.

no

Chirality

A chiral scale can not be transformed into its inverse by rotation. If a scale is chiral, then it has an enantiomorph.

yes
enantiomorph: 1005

Hemitonia

A hemitone is two tones separated by a semitone interval. Hemitonia describes how many such hemitones exist.

5 (multihemitonic)

Cohemitonia

A cohemitone is an instance of two adjacent hemitones. Cohemitonia describes how many such cohemitones exist.

3 (tricohemitonic)

Imperfections

An imperfection is a tone which does not have a perfect fifth above it in the scale. This value is the quantity of imperfections in this scale.

3

Modes

Modes are the rotational transformations of this scale. This number does not include the scale itself, so the number is usually one less than its cardinality; unless there are rotational symmetries then there are even fewer modes.

7

Prime Form

Describes if this scale is in prime form, using the Rahn/Ring formula.

no
prime: 735

Generator

Indicates if the scale can be constructed using a generator, and an origin.

none

Deep Scale

A deep scale is one where the interval vector has 6 different digits.

no

Interval Structure

Defines the scale as the sequence of intervals between one tone and the next.

[3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2]

Interval Vector

Describes the intervallic content of the scale, read from left to right as the number of occurences of each interval size from semitone, up to six semitones.

<5, 5, 6, 4, 5, 3>

Interval Spectrum

The same as the Interval Vector, but expressed in a syntax used by Howard Hanson.

p5m4n6s5d5t3

Distribution Spectra

Describes the specific interval sizes that exist for each generic interval size. Each generic <g> has a spectrum {n,...}. The Spectrum Width is the difference between the highest and lowest values in each spectrum.

<1> = {1,2,3}
<2> = {2,3,4,5}
<3> = {3,4,5,6}
<4> = {4,5,6,7,8}
<5> = {6,7,8,9}
<6> = {7,8,9,10}
<7> = {9,10,11}

Spectra Variation

Determined by the Distribution Spectra; this is the sum of all spectrum widths divided by the scale cardinality.

2.5

Maximally Even

A scale is maximally even if the tones are optimally spaced apart from each other.

no

Maximal Area Set

A scale is a maximal area set if a polygon described by vertices dodecimetrically placed around a circle produces the maximal interior area for scales of the same cardinality. All maximally even sets have maximal area, but not all maximal area sets are maximally even.

no

Interior Area

Area of the polygon described by vertices placed for each tone of the scale dodecimetrically around a unit circle, ie a circle with radius of 1.

2.616

Polygon Perimeter

Perimeter of the polygon described by vertices placed for each tone of the scale dodecimetrically around a unit circle.

6.002

Myhill Property

A scale has Myhill Property if the Interval Spectra has exactly two specific intervals for every generic interval.

no

Balanced

A scale is balanced if the distribution of its tones would satisfy the "centrifuge problem", ie are placed such that it would balance on its centre point.

no

Ridge Tones

Ridge Tones are those that appear in all transpositions of a scale upon the members of that scale. Ridge Tones correspond directly with axes of reflective symmetry.

none

Propriety

Also known as Rothenberg Propriety, named after its inventor. Propriety describes whether every specific interval is uniquely mapped to a generic interval. A scale is either "Proper", "Strictly Proper", or "Improper".

Improper

Heteromorphic Profile

Defined by Norman Carey (2002), the heteromorphic profile is an ordered triple of (c, a, d) where c is the number of contradictions, a is the number of ambiguities, and d is the number of differences. When c is zero, the scale is Proper. When a is also zero, the scale is Strictly Proper.

(36, 72, 151)

Common Triads

These are the common triads (major, minor, augmented and diminished) that you can create from members of this scale.

* Pitches are shown with C as the root

Triad TypeTriad*Pitch ClassesDegreeEccentricityCloseness Centrality
Major TriadsC{0,4,7}341.91
D♯{3,7,10}341.91
F{5,9,0}242.27
Minor Triadscm{0,3,7}441.82
d♯m{3,6,10}342
am{9,0,4}342
Diminished Triads{0,3,6}242.09
d♯°{3,6,9}242.27
{4,7,10}242.18
f♯°{6,9,0}242.36
{9,0,3}242.09
Parsimonious Voice Leading Between Common Triads of Scale 1785. Created by Ian Ring ©2019 cm cm c°->cm d#m d#m c°->d#m C C cm->C D# D# cm->D# cm->a° C->e° am am C->am d#° d#° d#°->d#m f#° f#° d#°->f#° d#m->D# D#->e° F F F->f#° F->am a°->am

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Above is a graph showing opportunities for parsimonious voice leading between triads*. Each line connects two triads that have two common tones, while the third tone changes by one generic scale step.

Diameter4
Radius4
Self-Centeredyes

Modes

Modes are the rotational transformation of this scale. Scale 1785 can be rotated to make 7 other scales. The 1st mode is itself.

2nd mode:
Scale 735
Scale 735: Sylyllic, Ian Ring Music TheorySylyllicThis is the prime mode
3rd mode:
Scale 2415
Scale 2415: Lothyllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryLothyllic
4th mode:
Scale 3255
Scale 3255: Daryllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryDaryllic
5th mode:
Scale 3675
Scale 3675: Monyllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryMonyllic
6th mode:
Scale 3885
Scale 3885: Styryllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryStyryllic
7th mode:
Scale 1995
Scale 1995: Sideways Scale, Ian Ring Music TheorySideways Scale
8th mode:
Scale 3045
Scale 3045: Raptyllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryRaptyllic

Prime

The prime form of this scale is Scale 735

Scale 735Scale 735: Sylyllic, Ian Ring Music TheorySylyllic

Complement

The octatonic modal family [1785, 735, 2415, 3255, 3675, 3885, 1995, 3045] (Forte: 8-13) is the complement of the tetratonic modal family [75, 705, 1545, 2085] (Forte: 4-13)

Inverse

The inverse of a scale is a reflection using the root as its axis. The inverse of 1785 is 1005

Scale 1005Scale 1005: Radyllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryRadyllic

Enantiomorph

Only scales that are chiral will have an enantiomorph. Scale 1785 is chiral, and its enantiomorph is scale 1005

Scale 1005Scale 1005: Radyllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryRadyllic

Transformations:

In the abbreviation, the subscript number after "T" is the number of semitones of tranposition, "M" means the pitch class is multiplied by 5, and "I" means the result is inverted. Operation is an identical way to express the same thing; the syntax is <a,b> where each tone of the set x is transformed by the equation y = ax + b

Abbrev Operation Result Abbrev Operation Result
T0 <1,0> 1785       T0I <11,0> 1005
T1 <1,1> 3570      T1I <11,1> 2010
T2 <1,2> 3045      T2I <11,2> 4020
T3 <1,3> 1995      T3I <11,3> 3945
T4 <1,4> 3990      T4I <11,4> 3795
T5 <1,5> 3885      T5I <11,5> 3495
T6 <1,6> 3675      T6I <11,6> 2895
T7 <1,7> 3255      T7I <11,7> 1695
T8 <1,8> 2415      T8I <11,8> 3390
T9 <1,9> 735      T9I <11,9> 2685
T10 <1,10> 1470      T10I <11,10> 1275
T11 <1,11> 2940      T11I <11,11> 2550
Abbrev Operation Result Abbrev Operation Result
T0M <5,0> 2895      T0MI <7,0> 3675
T1M <5,1> 1695      T1MI <7,1> 3255
T2M <5,2> 3390      T2MI <7,2> 2415
T3M <5,3> 2685      T3MI <7,3> 735
T4M <5,4> 1275      T4MI <7,4> 1470
T5M <5,5> 2550      T5MI <7,5> 2940
T6M <5,6> 1005      T6MI <7,6> 1785
T7M <5,7> 2010      T7MI <7,7> 3570
T8M <5,8> 4020      T8MI <7,8> 3045
T9M <5,9> 3945      T9MI <7,9> 1995
T10M <5,10> 3795      T10MI <7,10> 3990
T11M <5,11> 3495      T11MI <7,11> 3885

The transformations that map this set to itself are: T0, T6MI

Nearby Scales:

These are other scales that are similar to this one, created by adding a tone, removing a tone, or moving one note up or down a semitone.

Scale 1787Scale 1787: Mycrygic, Ian Ring Music TheoryMycrygic
Scale 1789Scale 1789: Blues Enneatonic II, Ian Ring Music TheoryBlues Enneatonic II
Scale 1777Scale 1777: Saptian, Ian Ring Music TheorySaptian
Scale 1781Scale 1781: Gocryllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryGocryllic
Scale 1769Scale 1769: Blues Heptatonic II, Ian Ring Music TheoryBlues Heptatonic II
Scale 1753Scale 1753: Hungarian Major, Ian Ring Music TheoryHungarian Major
Scale 1721Scale 1721: Mela Vagadhisvari, Ian Ring Music TheoryMela Vagadhisvari
Scale 1657Scale 1657: Ionothian, Ian Ring Music TheoryIonothian
Scale 1913Scale 1913: Lofian, Ian Ring Music TheoryLofian
Scale 2041Scale 2041: Aeolacrygic, Ian Ring Music TheoryAeolacrygic
Scale 1273Scale 1273: Ronian, Ian Ring Music TheoryRonian
Scale 1529Scale 1529: Kataryllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryKataryllic
Scale 761Scale 761: Ponian, Ian Ring Music TheoryPonian
Scale 2809Scale 2809: Gythyllic, Ian Ring Music TheoryGythyllic
Scale 3833Scale 3833: Dycrygic, Ian Ring Music TheoryDycrygic

This scale analysis was created by Ian Ring, Canadian Composer of works for Piano, and total music theory nerd. Scale notation generated by VexFlow, graph visualization by Graphviz, and MIDI playback by MIDI.js. All other diagrams and visualizations are © Ian Ring. Some scale names used on this and other pages are ©2005 William Zeitler (http://allthescales.org) used with permission.

Pitch spelling algorithm employed here is adapted from a method by Uzay Bora, Baris Tekin Tezel, and Alper Vahaplar. (An algorithm for spelling the pitches of any musical scale) Contact authors Patent owner: Dokuz Eylül University, Used with Permission. Contact TTO

Tons of background resources contributed to the production of this summary; for a list of these peruse this Bibliography. Special thanks to Richard Repp for helping with technical accuracy, and George Howlett for assistance with the Carnatic ragas.